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- INTERVIEW, Page 13Testing the Limits Of Middle Age
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- Mark Spitz won seven gold medals in the 1972 Olympics. He's now
- 40 years old, but he really believes he'll be in Barcelona in
- 1992
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- By SAM ALLIS and Mark Spitz
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- Q. It has been 18 years since you won at the Olympics. You
- are financially secure. You are married, with one child. Why
- are you doing this?
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- A. In everyday life there is always manana. There is no
- urgency. One of the most difficult things for people who have
- been successful in sports is adapting to the daily world where
- you can't get an answer from someone until 5 o'clock tomorrow.
- There is always an excuse. Living 40 or 50 years like that
- doesn't get too exciting after a while.
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- Q. So you miss the pressure?
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- A. I loved it. In those days I ran out of mananas on the day
- of the competition. Most people at the age of 22 never think
- about having to do something for the very last time in their
- whole life.
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- Q. This seems to be less about swimming and more about
- challenge.
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- A. Absolutely. It has nothing to do with swimming. That
- happens to be my sport. I'm trying to see how far I can go.
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- Q. You were not well liked after Munich. You're an underdog
- now. Is this also about redemption?
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- A. By making a comeback, I'm changing the attitude of people
- toward me. If I'd known that people would react so
- enthusiastically, I'd have done it years ago. Everyone loves
- to be loved.
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- Q. Like it or not, you are a role model for a lot of people.
- How does that make you feel?
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- A. I think that this whole challenge is almost exclusive to
- me, that if I am successful you couldn't run down the street
- and say to everybody who is 42 years old, "Get off your rear
- ends, quit being couch potatoes, and go do something with
- yourself." What it is saying is that someone who was a world
- champion and who takes care of himself with a 17-year rest and
- applies the proper training techniques and perseverance could
- be successful.
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- Q. So there is no broader message here?
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- A. Sure there is. I hear people say, "I should have done
- this and that." They rattle off 20 different reasons why they
- didn't do something. Almost 100% of the time they were capable
- of doing exactly what they said they should have done. But they
- didn't. So they couldn't. It's like trains going in and out of
- the depot. They've got no destinations, but they keep moving.
- You have to have the pelotas to get on one, and the wisdom to
- know whether it's going in the right direction, and the courage
- to jump off and do something about it if it's the wrong
- direction. And most people don't. Because a known fact is better
- than an unknown fact. I'm at the depot, and I'm not going
- anywhere. That's better to deal with than having to deal with
- the unknown. And the unknown is they don't want to fail. They
- don't want to pay the price unless there's a guarantee they're
- going to get there.
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- Q. Why is failure so scary for most people?
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- A. People hate to look in the mirror and say, "You know
- something? I gave it my all. I trained as hard as I could. And
- I'm not worth a s---." Excuse my French, but nobody wants to
- accept that.
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- Q. What do experts think about your ability to do this?
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- A. All bets are off. I am the Martian man come to life in
- sports. If you had to create a situation to test the body,
- here's a guy who was great. He has taken care of himself. He
- has been sort of hibernating, time warped. We'll see what
- happens. But they don't really have a firm grip if a male body
- matures between 28 and 32. Now they say maybe it's 35. I might
- prove they really don't know what the hell they're talking
- about, and it may not even be until you're 50. I think we're
- going to redefine what 40-year-olds can do.
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- Q. How important is experience against youth and muscle?
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- A. Experience right now doesn't do a thing for me other than
- tell me, boy, I've got a lot of hard work ahead of me, and I
- know what the road is. I know a bunch of different roads to get
- there. If I get to the Olympics, that says age is no
- difference. I will have proved that. Then who are you going to
- bet on? All things being equal, you go with the guy who's been
- on the block more times than the next guy. I've been on the
- block at the Olympics about 25 times. I personally wouldn't
- want to swim against Mark Spitz in the Olympics.
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- Q. The young hot shots out there don't frighten you?
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- A. Nobody does. I don't get rattled by that stuff. I got
- beat real hard and heavy in the Olympic Games in 1968 by a guy
- who swam an incredible race one time in his whole life, but he
- did it right at the right time. I'd like to be that guy now.
- Maybe that's what I'm going to have to pull out of my hat to
- make the Olympic team.
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- Q. You're confident you'll beat your old time of 54:27 for
- the 100-meter butterfly?
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- A. Oh yeah. That's not even an issue. That's not
- braggadocio.
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- Q. Can you tell me what time you will need to make the team
- in 1992?
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- A. No. (Spitz's coach, Ron Ballatore, estimates a 52:9.)
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- Q. How do you train?
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- A. I rarely swim fly. I swim freestyle. Butterfly is the
- most difficult stroke. After swimming a minute of butterfly,
- you're on your butt. So guys who work out more than I do in
- butterfly have the greatest lousy stroke in the world, because
- your arms get tired, and you drop your elbows, and your
- technique is off. The technical stroke in butterfly is critical
- to the speed of the stroke.
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- Q. So you will actually be training less?
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- A. Yes. I'm only in one event, and I'm being coached this
- time as a sprinter. I don't know how little I have to do.
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- Q. You're training with weights for the first time?
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- A. Yeah. Free weights. They've learned a lot in the past 20
- years. Today the weight training can specifically exercise
- certain muscle groups for freestyle sprints or butterfly
- sprints or whatever.
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- Q. What is it like practicing with the U.C.L.A. varsity?
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- A. They used to ask me all kinds of questions, and I used
- to tell them all these great answers. I finally woke up one
- morning and said, "One of these dudes is going to beat me by
- one of these little comments I'm making. I'd better cool it."
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- Q. Only two people make the Olympic team in each swimming
- event. If you don't make the American team, would you swim for
- another country, maybe Israel?
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- A. No, I don't think I would. I'm not going to renounce my
- American citizenship.
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- Q. What do your friends and family think of this?
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- A. I asked my brother-in-law if he thought I am crazy. He
- said, "You've got to be crazy to do what you did in 1972, so
- whatever you had going for you then is probably still in your
- brain now." My sister Nancy said, "If he makes the Olympic
- team, Mark's going to win." And I really believe that.
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- Q. Win the gold medal?
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- A. Yes. If I make the Olympic team, I go by my sister's
- philosophy. I'll win. But unless I make the team, I can't win.
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- Q. So what are the odds you're going to be in Barcelona in
- 1992?
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- A. Before I started swimming, 20%. Now that I've been
- swimming, I've got a fifty-fifty chance. After I get through
- swimming in competition for a while, we'll see.
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